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Critiques and Feature

Journal Entry: Mon Apr 13, 2009, 9:39 AM






Feature

I've just stumbled across a gallery by a very talented traditional artist. His name is ~Robbin-Veldman and he's probably one of the most underrated artists on dA with a total of only ten (!) watchers (including me). So, have a look at these beautiful paintings and give him some love :aww:







Work from my Watchers

A little sample of the work of the next fifteen of my watchers. If you find something you like, go and take a look at their galleries, I, for one, found it very interesting to browse through their work :nod: You can find all the features here: [link]







A remark on critiques


DeviantArt has released its new critique feature to the masses (see FAQ #95: What is the Critique Feature and how do I use it? for details) and there have been a lot of comments on the subject, most of them dividable into two different parts - those who love it and those who hate it. Some say we don't need a new feature for critiques (especially not one which is accessable only for subscribers) because that's what comments are actually for. Some say it's alright but the minimum amounts of words is too high or the rating system is too open for abuse. Some say it's really great to motivate people to think before they comment and take time to write something which might actually help the artist to grow.



And while I somehow agree with all of them, while I think this new feature is a step in the right direction and it's good to bring up the issue, I still think that it's much more important to make some people on dA realise something: it's up to us to change something!



There are so many people complaining that their artwork doesn't receive any attention, that they never get helpful critique and rarely comments and favs. So many people argue that dA is going downhill, that the popular artists remain popular and new better artists stay unnoticed and that dA is more of a social network than an Art community. But how many of those actually do something about it? When is the last time you wrote a comment that was more than the average "Wow, that's great!"? If everyone who complains about their work not getting enough attention went out there and wrote constructive comments instead of sulking and blaming dA, the problem would be solved.



"But what's in it for me?" you might ask. And that's a considerable question, since we live in a society where "altruistic" is not one of the traits most people associate themselves with. The keyword is exposure. Nobody will comment on your work if they don't even know your work exists. By writing comments (be it in the forums, on deviations, on news articles or whereever) you get your name out there. And if the comments you write stand out from the mass of "Cool!", :omg:, "Nice work" or "Wow, that's so sweeet!!!1!!elven" chances are that someone will notice and want to know who's behind those comments. If you give helpful feedback, chances are that someone will want to return the favor and drop a similar comment on one of your deviations. Of course there's no guarantee they will, but I can assure you that they will not if they have no incentive to do so. Give them one by thinking before you write!



This is one of the occasions where you can actually change something. Maybe not on the large scale, but definitely for one person - the artist whose work you comment on! It doesn't need to be a hundred words long and you don't need to write about all the aspects suggested in the new feature (although you're free to ;) ). But you could tell the person why you like their piece, how it makes you feel, what it makes you think of. If you think an artwork needs improvement, why not tell the artist so he/she can actually do something about it? And you don't need to be a subscriber to do so, you don't need to use a fancy feature, you can do so in the good ol' comment box.



Of course you don't have to do that and if you think it's too much of an inconvenience or a waste of time, I will probably not be able to change your mind (and neither will dAs new feature). But please stop complaining and blaming the system, since you're a part of it and people like you made it that way.



This is just my opinion and I'm guilty of the occasional "OMG awesome!" comment myself, but at least I'm trying :D If you want to read some more on how to give constructive comments and critiques, see the thumbs below.





Twilight Fanart Contest


=witchi1976 is holding a Twilight Fanart Contest and I'm one of the judges :excited: The entries that have been added so far are amazing! You'll have until April 15th to submit a creative drawing of anything twilight-related. Further information can be found at this News Article. I hope you'll all join in and spread the word!! :D



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:iconmagda-lenaa:
I really enjoyed reading this:nod:Because I totally agree with everything you said:nod:

I love getting comments that really SAY something.It's nice to know what people think of your work-what they like about it but what they don't as well.I like the new Critique thing but as you said - we can always say what we've got to say.It's up to us:highfive:

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:iconraishuu:
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it :D
I'm not sure whether the new Critique system will actually improve the amount of critique people get... maybe some Deviants will try it out, but I think they will lose interest soon, except for those who've been giving critique before :shrug:

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:icondragonsanddaffodils:
Great information here.

I love when someone takes the time to give useful critique. I find it really helpful. It is the only thing that helps us to grow.

I know that there is no way I would have improved without the helpful advice that I have received so far..........keep it coming I say! :thumbsup:

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:iconraishuu:
Thanks!
I feel excactly the same way. I've grown so much due to the helpful comments from fellow Deviants, I wouldn't be where I am without them. Which is why I get really mad when I hear people saying that you can't get critique on dA. You can, you just have to know where to look, instead of sitting there and waiting for it to reach you out of nowhere :slap:

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:iconblacleria:
In my opinion the new critique system is really a good idea... I think it motivates (at least me ;)) to write more often detailed critique than before, so I really think it is good.
But if no one is using it... that is of course not the sense of it and everything would be just like before.
Extra mal auf englisch geschrieben...

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:icondragonsanddaffodils:
Absolutely!!!!

My only problem with switching on the critique at the moment is that I know I have loooooooads to learn and I don't want to get bombarded too much......yet! I think I just have to be brave enough to switch it on.

Its not that I don't want people to critique, I find it so helpful, but I don't know if I am good enough to be able to correct what is wrong. Do you know what I mean? Art is quite a steep learning curve, especially when you didn't study it.

I have wonderful people that work out what is wrong with my drawings to help me.

Blacleria was brilliant when I was trying to sort out Bellas nose shape. I still don't think I did it justice, but the support was invaluable.

Actually, think I might switch it on for my latest Rob Pattinson cos I am rubbish at facial closeups, so critique will help there..............(goes off to switch it on :) )

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:iconraishuu:
Hm, I think I know what you mean, but it can't hurt to get some ideas on what to focus on, right? Most of the time I'm too lazy to correct things once I have declared a drawing as "done" but it's always good to hear what other people think and whether they spot mistakes that I have completely overlooked, so I can concentrate more on those parts in the next drawing.
But don't belittle yourself, you're really good, and I think you could handle critiques pretty well :nod:
I know what you mean about the learning curve... I feel like I've really improved in the last eight months, but right now I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere. I tried out some new things, like speed drawings and charcoal, but I don't think I really get better. I'd have to invest so much more time to get to the next level, much more than it took me to get where I am now. At least it feels like that ^^;

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:iconraishuu:
By the way, do you have a link to your reference for the Robert Pattinson drawing? I can try to give you some feedback if you like, but it's easier if I see what it looks like in the original. I've had some very embarassing moments when I thought something looked completely off while it was drawn excactly as seen in the ref :D

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:iconraishuu:
You think so? Well I hope you're right, that would be great. I'm a little more pessimistic, but we'll see how it turns out. I'm really curious to see whether it will actually change something. But if it already motivated you, I guess it does :D

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:icondragonsanddaffodils:
good idea! I have just scanned it in and attached it to my drawing.

Here is the link to my drawing [link]

(I know what you mean, I haven't put the refs up for most of mine, cos they are just photos I have worked from rather than scanned in images, and one lady said my Grampys nose looked off, but big noses run in our family! :laughing:

thanks for this

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